Scythe Can you elaborate why the EF would be your priority? Plan ahead by saving for predictable expenses like vacation and for unpredictable expenses like car repairs or medical bills. I wonder why they can code it to work in the arguably more complicated scenario, and what is basically "Amount Spent Last Month" is indeterminable til the 1st. dakinemaui I second this answer. We have been using YNAB since 2012 so it is definitely working for us. Bonus: Tiller Money is cheaper than YNAB by about $2 a month. dakinemaui Okay that makes sense, I think I was making this harder on myself. . I think having an emergency fund is more important. My question would be then what would be the impact to leave the money in that holding category until the month flips for real? None of these are showstoppers, but irritating nonetheless compared to the classic workflow: Classically-minded users typically use a holding category to circumvent all these issues and increase efficiency. BEing a month ahead means being able to pay next month's expenses with this month's money because you are spending last month's pay this month. dakinemaui I feel I read this conversation 100 time and I still have a bit of a challenge understanding the best way to address this. Once your money sits for 30 days before you spend it, you’re a month ahead on all your expenses and can breathe easy knowing you have comfortable cashflow for upcoming expenses. Whether this becomes a reality for you depends on your income, your spending habits, and your degree of success with budgeting. Where it is a bit unclear to me is why you release it at the end of the month, but before the month flips over? (i.e., money meant for Oct.) into the holding category with a budget entry (rather than directly categorizing the transaction). Rule 1 is to make a plan for ALL your money. When you get a check in July, you either temporarily put it in a holding category until the end of the month (my preference) or scroll over to August and budget it there to various categories (including a New Cell Phone category, etc.). As mentioned, you can always reallocate the money to your EF if an emergency comes and you still haven't built that up (fingers crossed you don't have an emergency!) They also offer a referral program that reduces the amount you pay for YNAB, and I’ll explain more about this further down in my YNAB review. To put it a different way, pulling from the INM category potentially messes with ALL your goals. Related Articles January 3, 2021 4 Simple Rules for Less Money Stress January 1, 2021 How to Create a Budget Template in YNAB December 30, 2020 3 Habits of Successful Budgeters Your Next Step Budgeting is not restrictive. Spending goal is supposed to "top up" your category, but irritatingly, it makes you wait until the month actually changes in the real world. I think I'm lost somewhere in the details if anyone has any advice! (Technically, there's an indicator that money has leaked into the future.). Using a budgeting app that has its own “Rules” that don’t even make that much sense at first glance can seem weird. I'm trying to get away from moving money from my EF category to cover overspending since the it messes with my goal (so many details,lol). Feb 21, 2012 41,111 31,309 Behind the Lens, UK. (Early outflows next month will already be covered by directly budgeting ahead.). You can always reallocate back to an EF if necessary, but until then, that money is making things easier and providing clarity by budgeting on a cycle aligned with your expense recurrence cycle. Taking that money screws up that plan and makes for potentially a lot of work. Category balances should inform one as to what they can spend for that category. (Immediately so you don't lose options.) In that case, I would release the old and capture the new simultaneously with the inline calculator. I would work on getting a month ahead on the budget first. Similar with any additional checks. Other categories like Electric, I am trying to grow a surplus within the category to handle the above average months, so I would not sweep those. If you have more dollars in income for January than you "need" to fund your February categories, that's an awesome problem to have and it becomes a bigger-picture discussion - can I start saving more for my next car, is my Job Loss fund where I want it to be, can I increase my retirement contributions, etc. Scroll over to the next month and budget ahead. If you still need some of the Sept. paycheck in Sept's budget, then I recommend you put any money you don't need in Sept. The "not-recommended-for-beginners" aspect of my actual YNAB workflow: I have my next month entirely populated at the beginning of this month. The questions are should I ignore these funds until I am budgeted a month ahead? It's just a lot of screen flipping and numbers to edit when amounts invariably need to change. Overspending should be covered immediately from the lowest priority category with funds. but the Toolkit (duh!) (The sole exception are Spending Goals, but that's a rant for another day!) Life before YNAB: the Dark Days of Budgeting . LOL, Wendy Valencia  You might be interested in the third-party app Allowance for YNAB. I’m still not there, but slowly working towards it. Green Flute The mechanics I would recommend vary depending on whether you need any of the money from September paychecks in the September budget or not. And bring your questions! At the end of the month, I then batch-edit the category on all those income transactions, changing it to Inflow: To Be Budgeted. That will move all the money into TBB and you can budget for February. Get 4 FREE Months of YNAB! One month ahead was a game changer. On the last day of the month allocate all those dollars to the following month. Green Python No, you have it right. , Follow YNAB to get support and lots of great ideas on budgeting. Where YNAB shines. As Move Light Sound Life alludes, YNAB typically doesn't care about time in the real world. Years ago I used paper budgeting, before I graduated to spreadsheets. KrypticPhish Opinions vary on this one. Have I misunderstood what the one month buffer is about? It could take up to a year . Personal Capital. I have continued adding to that category with the aim of building it up to one month's expenses (now over $5K). Here's one description of specific workflows I would recommend (elsewhere in this thread) for both the fully and the partially buffered cases (i.e., when all or only some of this month's income can be sent to next month's budget). Let’s take a look at a few months of a happy new YNABer as they work to get a month ahead. Yeah, I know... easier said than done. Personal Capital will help you manage your money. HollowGirl congratulations on having that money saved. (The INM "job" was merely a plan of "Sit tight until I have all the dollars."). This way it's not too late to say, "no" to that purchase if no lower priority category can be identified from which to reallocate. INM is probably the highest priority category in my budget outside of, like, rent and electricity. One of the benefits of the new cloud version of YNAB is the ability to set goals for the future. It's weird, ever notice when you have a spending goal further out than a month, it adjusts in real-time, but if it's a Monthly spending goal, it doesn't? I have been struggling ever since YNAB switched over to the new platform to figure out the best practice way to designate income from this month for next month. You have control over how you classify them too. If you do want to have it in savings for the month to get a little more interest, you would enter a transfer from the savings account to the checking account. The advantage in YNAB, particularly if you are paid weekly, is that you can budget the whole month at once rather than trying to figure out if you can afford groceries before your next paycheck because your rent is due tomorrow. Just wanted to point out that if you are also budgeting some funds directly to next months area, then you don't need to save an entire month of pay in that category. That will remove one more item from your monthly budget. Entering the income categorized as "income for next month" (or moving it there from TBB right away) until you budget for the next month is a pretty common workflow for those of us who are living on last month's income as you are. However, it does so in a much more comprehensive way than YNAB. My money is aged to 37 days which I'm very happy with. YNAB is free for students. Account balances should be banned! They figured out how to make budgeting fun. You are now a month ahead. After it's said and done, the holding category will always be 0 when looking back at budgets or reports, the income will still be income. You deal with it on the budget screen. The goal is for everyone to check category balances, and move money BEFORE incurring overspending. It’s really hard to get a month ahead on expenses. The easiest way around this is to get one month ahead on your budget (meaning you have one month salary available at all times). You will not believe the feeling having 1k knocked back will give you. ), Realistically, I've found that getting such users involved dealing with the ramifications is critical. Getting a month ahead means that you are able to fully fund July with income received in June. dakinemaui Great advice! I’m using Option 1 based on past reading on this forum in the topic, I also found your post on the topic really useful thanks Move Light Sound Life. The next month category should always be completely empty by the end of the month. I decided to transfer enough savings to buffer one month of budget and that was a game changer for me. You can release it on Sept. 20th and distribute it if you don't expect any more income. Thanks for always diving deep in the details to help fellow YNABers! Personally, I'd prioritize being able to push all income into next month, but then again I have bi-weekly income where being ahead is much more useful. Option 1 you mentioned is how the old version of YNAB (Classic) was designed. If it were me, I would fund the emergency fund first. Instead of just spending that $200, you can actually go forward to February and budget that $200 for next month. I can't speak to your priorities. YNAB is available in a single price, of $7 per month. Take some of your EF and fully fund the month of January. I'd rather it do something useful until then -- like make my budgeting process far easier and significantly clearer. I mean, it's not a surprise the summer bills are higher. 6 of My Favorite YNAB Features. This makes sense and excited to try it moving forward from here! We had a similar experience when we started ynab. This makes it a little easier to add to it (e.g., if you have leftovers later in the month) or pull back (e.g., if you were a little too optimistic about allocations elsewhere). 4 Now, back in the current month, you'll see that money you just budgeted as Budgeted in Future. Thank you so much! I put away about $200/month for the emergency fund and I'm about 60% of the way to my goal, but struggling to get a month ahead in the rest of my budget. take cash from my EF to fully fund all the budget for next month. Month One. Again, no big deal assuming sufficient funds in the holding category to cover the deficit in TBB. Want to budget more than one month ahead? Although YNAB is the most costly option on our list, the company offers a … Still such a shame that the old rules, that made perfect sense, got so messed up with the web version. 2. At least $1000, then work on getting a month ahead. After that, Month Ahead vs EF, Month Ahead always wins out. For whatever reason, it never occurred to me to RECATEGORIZE the income transactions. Budget TBB to $0 as normal, as far as it goes. ynaber2613 i fully agree. I used to wait for the month to turn because I hated SFTF and it bit me more than I'd like. Let’s say you get paid on January 1st and again on January 15th. Forgot to describe how this would work with an Income Replacement category. First of all, Month Ahead is powerful, secondly, it can be raided in an ahem..., emergency, and then built back up again. AOM of 30 is merely a statistic about the average of your last 10 cash-based transactions. Neat. And I guess that temporary category is not the same you shared with me previously called "Deferred Income", to be use when your money fluctuate compare to an average? YNAB is free for one year for students with a valid .edu email address, with a 10% discount after the first year. And does budgeting a month ahead mean all your categories are budgeted a month ahead, including these sinking funds? So long as both accounts are on budget, that wouldn't change the category. Since that is really what those funds are for, you might consider putting it in an Income Replacement category instead of allocating so far in advance. When I decided to get serious about budgeting, I had a sneaking suspicion that limiting my spending would do me some good, but I had no friggin’ clue where to start. dakinemaui Thanks for this incredible post; I clearly owe you a few rounds! We get paid 1st/15th, so being able to completely fund the month when receiving the first paycheck feels great. If you get in a mood to read more, I tried to summarize everything I'd learned about the Buffer here. nolesrule  and  adriana01 Thank you so much for your help. In the end, everyone should be looking at category balances, and the money should be budgeted in accordance with joint priorities. so there’s no real way to forecast further then that. Just click “HOUSING” and type your preferred title. I don't even care about the future negative TBB consuming any funds released while shifting between categories during the current month because the months are intentionally walled off. If this has already been covered in a previous post, just let me know. It is, however, a great place to store my nominal budget values, obviating any need for Goals and their nagging when applying Rule 3. If you're paid multiple times per month, I'd prioritize getting ahead. Then at the beginning of the month, you can budget it all out. Aging Your Money. "Income For Next Month". leave the extra money in Februarys TBB next month category. The point is this money stays out of your way so you can focus on managing the current month as new information dictates adjustments. I'll respond under the threat above about the workload. On the last day of the month I budget ahead with 2 weeks pay (which is sitting in that buffer/emergency category). Nothing special, release on day 1 if you like. Moving money between accounts in your budget doesn't affect your budget. ynaber2613 I did the same thing and it's really simplified my budgeting, as I only have to do it once a month. Orange Cyborg Please be aware that aging money to 30 days is absolutely not the same thing as getting a month ahead. After using YNAB since August, I recently did a budget re-set and transferred funds from our emergency fund into our checking account so that we could get a month ahead - or really, just a paycheck ahead. There would be plenty of time to get TBB to $0 on a timeline that is not exactly "recommended practice". Getting a month ahead was transformational for my wife and I, and the forward thinking this creates has been the greatest benefit of YNAB for us. then as you go, build up the monthly. I am getting very excited about being finally buffered after many years (I may be using YNAB4 terminology here) and I really don't think it will take long to save that final $1K now that all my true expenses are well funded. Aging your money 30  days takes awhile. For more help getting a month ahead, drop into one of our free, online classes about cutting spending or saving money on groceries. A nice option for reluctant users who just want to know, "how much can I spend on X right now? In fact, I'd reallocate the EF to facilitate it. I'm trying to get away from moving money from my EF category to cover overspending since the it messes with my goal. Isn't it funny how the explanations can sound so complicated but yet it seems so easy when your fingers are actually making the changes in YNAB? offers a version of this feature. Or reduce income by increasing contributions to workplace retirement plans if that's part of your plan and you still have space available. unfortunately, i don’t know of a way since YNAB only lets you see one month ahead. For this YNAB review, I want to tell you about my favorite features that YNAB offers. It lets you highlight categories of interest and make them more visible at a glance (lock screen / widget.) You have complete control over the number and names of categories, just as you would in a spreadsheet. Many use goals to make this a one-click affair. Brandon says: November 12, 2017 at 11:15 pm. In the example of September/October, what is different between if I wait to October 1st to release the fund from the holding category to TBB compare  to on September 30th, flip YNAB to October and release the funds to TBB? Cross that bridge at that point. Details, details, details! Superbone ^^^ THIS, a thousand times until it sinks in. They just swipe the CC without any thought as to the ramification of that spending decision. Follow the same prioritization sequence you used in the current month, budgeting until To be Budgeted is $0.00. In this scenario  does it still make sense to leave extra dollars in each specific category? I don't need September money in the Sept. budget, so I automatically categorize income to the holding category (scheduled transactions or Payee categorization rules). 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